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Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 19:22:00 - [1] Another node crash....Check Another time bob loads first....Check Another time lag favors bob....Check Another chest beating thread about how uber bob is when other's can't even load the grid....Check 10/10 Would call BS again. Fake edit: So strategy is haveing ***'s in your pocket eh?? Yeah High five! o/\o
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 19:25:00 - [2] Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Originally by: Smokie McLottapot Another node crash....Check Another time bob loads first....Check Another time lag favors bob....Check Another chest beating thread about how uber bob is when other's can't even load the grid....Check 10/10 Would call BS again. Fake edit: So strategy is haveing ***'s in your pocket eh?? Yeah High five! o/\o Cancel your account. Now. No you! LOLOL Can't handle the truth huh?
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 19:32:00 - [3] Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Originally by: Smokie McLottapot No you! LOLOL Can't handle the truth huh? Seriously. Cancel it. Why do you pay money to people who are cheating you? Cancel it now. So I can post in bob's, "were better than you" threads ofc.
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 19:39:00 - [4] Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Originally by: Smokie McLottapot Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Originally by: Smokie McLottapot No you! LOLOL Can't handle the truth huh? Seriously. Cancel it. Why do you pay money to people who are cheating you? Cancel it now. So I can post in bob's, "were better than you" threads ofc. So you're paying 15$ a month to someone for the privilige of calling them out on cheating you. Seems smart. As smart a flaming someone for there comments on an internet forum? Fail much?
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:06:00 - [5] Originally by: Ysabelle nKataros Edited by: Ysabelle nKataros on 30/09/2008 20:03:24 Originally by: Jinshu To be honest, the NC didn't loose a fight to your superior tactics, they didn't even lost the fight to you. They simply lost the fight to the Game that is. If only half the people that were staring at blackscreens while their ships were allready on grid and dying would have been able to do something - it would have been a different story. As you said yourself you were outnumbered horrifically and doomsdaying a supportfleet at the gate would have still not won you the fight nor is that a superior tactic to begin with. So keep braging as long as you want - it will not make it true. So what you're really saying, is that NC didn't lose the fight to a group of thinking enemies, it lost it to an entity that, while having enormous processing power, was not even designed to be hostile to you? ahahahahaha, hahahahahaha. That's like someone getting into a fistfight with a Cray XT4 and being electrocuted, with the unfortunate downside that you can't be given a darwin award for dying in EVE. Actully I think he's saying "Funny damn thing bod can load the grid, warp caps and supercaps around, while almost all nc pilots are stuck at loading...." I know thats what I'm saying :)
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:13:00 - [6] Originally by: Ysabelle nKataros Face it, BoB get the same treatment from the server that you do, and the reason that you lose is because Evolution made us better than you. :facepalm: And here I thought all the confirmed accounts of bod getting support from :cough: made you better, my bad
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:33:00 - [7] I want friends in Iceland FFS! I hear they like Tom Hanks movies.
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:39:00 - [8] Oh crap, other threads are being locked, must be Max damage control time!
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:50:00 - [9] Originally by: ponieus Originally by: Drakoumel inSpace yes its a strategy , yes its a chess , a very good move of Molle , but the problem is that the CCP dont give as pawns to play yeah blame CCP for your FC's decisions to jump into a camp and not jump somewhere else into the system.. yep.. CCP did that. seriously lol 0.0 the land of nap and log in ques Yeah because you can choose where to jump into a system with 2 gates. Wait are you a bod? Maybe you can choose where to jump in at o.0
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:55:00 - [10] Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Originally by: Smokie McLottapot As smart a flaming someone for there comments on an internet forum? I wasn't flaming you. I just don't think it's really smart to pay money to someone just to be able to tell them to stop cheating you. Originally by: Smokie McLottapot Fail much? Yes, I really think you do. Don't take it as a flame though. I don't think you could take another setback right now, what with you getting run out of your home and all. I pay for it, therefore I'd do as I wish. WTF are you talking about? You don't know where my home is. I'm not an NC member if thats what your implying. Maybe you should get back to ratting, don't forget you have rent to pay
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 20:58:00 - [11] Originally by: ElCoCo Having failed to see space for a day now, I've been told by some nice gm fella that I should logon "when the load is lower". Can someone msn me when that happens? You must not have been killed while not loaded yet, wait for the bod's to blow up your ship, then you'll be moved or be able to log-in.
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 21:07:00 - [12] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Smokie McLottapot Originally by: ponieus Originally by: Drakoumel inSpace yes its a strategy , yes its a chess , a very good move of Molle , but the problem is that the CCP dont give as pawns to play yeah blame CCP for your FC's decisions to jump into a camp and not jump somewhere else into the system.. yep.. CCP did that. seriously lol 0.0 the land of nap and log in ques Yeah because you can choose where to jump into a system with 2 gates. Wait are you a bod? Maybe you can choose where to jump in at o.0 Actually they didnt HAVE to jump in at all, they chose to and it was a poor decision. They could have taken that 800 man blob with 100+ capitals and re-took Deklein, or hit Delve, or done any number of things which would make far more sense than suiciding their fleet into a system which already had 450 people waiting to kill them. Oh, another quite big fight just happened in M-0, about 200ish NC/KIA et all logged in. I think it was an escape move. Lots of them died. They could've let there pos die and givin up the system without a fight true. But then again, maybe they were expecting a fair fight (fair fight meaning within game mechanics). I know against bod was dumb to think but he, everyone has a dream.
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 21:14:00 - [13] Originally by: 5h4dy Ok guys serious question as internet spaceships is a serious game, if you guys claim like you have done manytimes before, that you can fight and defeat bob with equal numbers and only lose when the node crashes or you get hit by terrible lag, do you then go invite TCF/KIA/DIASHO and some other fail alliances to come to m-o especialy when ccp has just got the server running ok with large fleet battles instead of just fighting bob with the alliances you have been? If bob had 350 peeps as thats the number that seems to be popping up more consistantly, did you guys go bring 600+, why didnt you just bring 350 or 400 and actualy have the chance to have a decent fight? Everyone knows eve camt handle 1k people fighting in the same system yet you still brought so many and then you complain about it on the forums. If you realy do think bobare cheating why do you carry on playing EVE i know i would cancel my account if i thought that. because if you are going to lose half your fleet to questionable node crashes and not being able to log-in or load the grid, you bring enough to account for that.
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 21:30:00 - [14] Originally by: Serene Thear Originally by: DigitalCommunist words Jade Constantine dwarfed the size of your posts. What are you gonna do about it/ He's going to open msn, convo someone in a country I'm not allowed to say, and have him warned
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.30 21:44:00 - [15] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Praetor Novak tears and crying and whining Oh man, framing this one :D Since I have top go for abit I just wanted to qoute this and say: BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD BOD Thats is all :)
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 01:08:00 - [16] Originally by: SirMolle The secrets on how to loose 50+ capitals and a support fleet without killing anything while outnumbering the enemy 2:1 Strategy Fixed that for ya
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 01:56:00 - [17] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Torp Turner Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem You sir truely are terrible Your vulgar it is quite unbearable Lets put this post back on track But if you still wish to attack Your futile attempts will be sneerable A molle thread staying on track? How longs it been since youve seen that? My guns power my words To appose me would be absurd carry on and youl endup lookin a tw@t. You two are both special on a kind of special level. I'd have to say the winner for the most ridiculous line would have to go to MR Turner This was a gem that made me laugh for several seconds, before I was embarrassed for you. "My guns power my words" There both ******ed, i.e. probly bod alts. BOD's secert to winning!
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 02:37:00 - [18] Originally by: gumble85 LOL. The thing is that this is very suspicious with me that the node crashed and 120 BOB members happened to login first. I wonder if there was another force involved and ever since CCP has been found numerous times favouring BOB. It makes me more suspicious by the minute. I can only hope CCP have gotten out of that trend, but i know of a fair few other players that smell CCP all of this. Just my two cents. :) Quoted for truth! BOD's secert to winning!
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 03:56:00 - [19] Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: gumble85 LOL. The thing is that this is very suspicious with me that the node crashed and 120 BOB members happened to login first. I wonder if there was another force involved and ever since CCP has been found numerous times favouring BOB. It makes me more suspicious by the minute. I can only hope CCP have gotten out of that trend, but i know of a fair few other players that smell CCP all of this. Just my two cents. :) Except your FCs lied to you and we didnt log in first. There were more NC caps loaded than ours. Do you know why you lost? You brilliant FC decided to order your dreads to not siege, so you had a fleet of unsieged dreads vs our sieged dreads. You couldn't even break the tank of a single one of our dreads. And you know this how? You got spys? Cause you know I heard you sooooo uber you don't need them? My Siggy :) Prove it wrong! BOD's Strategy to winning! Originally by: SirMolle Strategy
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 04:10:00 - [20] Edited by: Smokie McLottapot on 01/10/2008 04:10:31 Originally by: Tijuana Edited by: Tijuana on 01/10/2008 04:08:01 I am coining a new BoB whining term: DoD (Developer on Duty) For example: Monday night, the DoD was GM Gandalf and he activated the script that sorted logins by alliance. EDIT- That dude above me is pretty good at using the quote button Why thank you. Btw the DoD also is very good at copy and paste replys and deleteing stuck petitions. Or so I hear. My Siggy :) Prove it wrong! BOD's Strategy to winning! Originally by: SirMolle Strategy
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 10:40:00 - [21] Originally by: Tzrailasa Most people think this way: 1. I am Uber! 2. Therefore, I MUST be a member of an Uber group! 3. Therefore, WE are Uber! 4. Therefore, our FC's are Uber! 5. Therefore, we can't possibly loose fights! 6. Therefore, when we loose, our opponents MUST be BoBSploitDevHaxorz! "No-one is so blind as he who does not want to see....." ~10-15 dreads shooting our target-caller for more than an hour, and he tanked them without assistance. If even 5 of them had been in siege, he would've popped fairly fast.... We all thought he'd acquired a Super-Core-X repper.... And the fact that bod pilot had no problems logging back in (in-mass) after the node crash but the NC pilot only managed 10-15 at a time means nothing right? RIGHT? And the fact that most of those dreads tried to siege but got "An attempt to activeate that module is underway" means nothing right? RIGHT? The fact that not one of the killed caps tanked anything other than there standard hitpoints means they had full tanks running right? RIGHT? Anyone can destroy an inactive ship, but it takes a real group of douches to chest beat about it. For anything further, see my siggy! My Siggy :) Prove it wrong! BOD's Strategy to winning! Originally by: SirMolle Strategy
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 10:58:00 - [22] Originally by: speedek Originally by: Smokie McLottapot Originally by: Tzrailasa Most people think this way: 1. I am Uber! 2. Therefore, I MUST be a member of an Uber group! 3. Therefore, WE are Uber! 4. Therefore, our FC's are Uber! 5. Therefore, we can't possibly loose fights! 6. Therefore, when we loose, our opponents MUST be BoBSploitDevHaxorz! "No-one is so blind as he who does not want to see....." ~10-15 dreads shooting our target-caller for more than an hour, and he tanked them without assistance. If even 5 of them had been in siege, he would've popped fairly fast.... We all thought he'd acquired a Super-Core-X repper.... And the fact that bod pilot had no problems logging back in (in-mass) after the node crash but the NC pilot only managed 10-15 at a time means nothing right? RIGHT? And the fact that most of those dreads tried to siege but got "An attempt to activeate that module is underway" means nothing right? RIGHT? The fact that not one of the killed caps tanked anything other than there standard hitpoints means they had full tanks running right? RIGHT? Anyone can destroy an inactive ship, but it takes a real group of douches to chest beat about it. For anything further, see my siggy! haha are you the one with deadspace fitted dread? Why does everyone assume that becase I call a cheater a cheater that I must be an NC alt or lost something in this? Fact is I'm not NC in any way, nor have I ever been. Nor did I lose a damn thing in this farce of a fair game. So that that "were better than you" crap and cram it where the k-y goes. My Siggy :) Prove it wrong! BOD's Strategy to winning! Originally by: SirMolle Strategy
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 11:29:00 - [23] Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Originally by: Smokie McLottapot And the fact that bod pilot had no problems logging back in (in-mass) after the node crash but the NC pilot only managed 10-15 at a time means nothing right? RIGHT? And the fact that most of those dreads tried to siege but got "An attempt to activeate that module is underway" means nothing right? RIGHT? The fact that not one of the killed caps tanked anything other than there standard hitpoints means they had full tanks running right? RIGHT? Anyone can destroy an inactive ship, but it takes a real group of douches to chest beat about it. For anything further, see my siggy! Why do you feel the need to lie like this? Are you that bitter that you just can't accept that there was no cheating involved, and that your side (yes, its obvious you're an NC alt whatever you say) just had worse organisation and FCs? You're too pathetic to even feel sorry about. Where's the lie?.....none Think what you want about who's alt I am, cause I really don't care what you think. FACTS don't lie. But I can see how uber bod is, I mean it's not like they ever been caught cheating before, 3 different times. RIGHT? My Siggy :) Prove it wrong! BOD's Strategy to winning! Originally by: SirMolle Strategy
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 13:03:00 - [24] Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette A big load of crap Spin it anyway you want there buddy, we all know the truth. My Siggy :) Prove it wrong! BOD's Strategy to winning! Originally by: SirMolle Strategy
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 13:30:00 - [25] Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Originally by: Smokie McLottapot Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette A big load of crap Spin it anyway you want there buddy, we all know the truth. How 'bout you post some proof then? I'm talking about real proof. In grown-up land, accusations aren't the same as proof. Post proof that BoB as a whole has ever knowingly cheated. Post proof that BoB as a whole has ever knowingly recieved help from a developer. Post proof that BoB as a whole are currently recieving preferential treatment from CCP. If you are unable to provide these you need to STFU, because you're nothing but a bag of hot air. After you have provided proof of all your accusations, thus saving the community from the evil games developers, you should cancel your account and STOP PAYING YOUR MONEY TO SOMEONE JUST TO BE ABLE TO TELL HIM TO STOP CHEATING YOU, NUMBNUTS! Show me where I have ever said "All of bob" or "bob as a whole".... I said bob MEMBERS...M.E.M.B.E.R.S. Once again read first, then spout your childish dribble My Siggy :) Prove it wrong! BOD's Strategy to winning! Originally by: SirMolle Strategy
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 13:31:00 - [26] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 01/10/2008 13:24:17 let us look at the Revelation. Typical Bob pilot has all skills at lvl5. DPS = 3,630+ with siege. The Worst bob dread pilot, that is allowed to fly in a capital gang, would have Dread lvl4 so he would do 3,400dps+. Typical Nc pilot has Dread lvl 1 and other Capital Energy Turret lvl 1. Let us assume they have Lvl5 in everything else. Without Siege, DPS = 330. Thats over 10 times the DPS by having high skills and Siege. Each Gbc Dread sieged is worth over 10 NC unsieged Dreads.But wait, that was assuming NC used bob fitouts. What if we look at the non-damage mod NC fitouts? DPS = 226. So While most NC pilots were doing the damage output of a assault frig, each GBC Dread was doing 15-16 times more DPS. Does that answer the question as to why NC Whiners got their asses handed to them? And how excatly would you know what lvl skills nc pilots have? My Siggy :) Prove it wrong! BOD's Strategy to winning! Originally by: SirMolle Strategy
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 14:04:00 - [27] Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 01/10/2008 14:01:25 @ Shadoo: look at lossmail of AJ Regard for example. Now you can conclude: 1. at least 1 dread was able to siege (it was using guns after all) 2. it didn't siege / pilot is r*** - no sieged dread bother with falcons and it wasn't drone aggro but lock on it - it was using guns on it I know this is quite poor evidence, because this dread could disobey siege order(or being R*** and have all his stront splitted / in cans) but considering Rick M tanked capital fleet, the order to siege probably didn't came at all or everyone just tried to bail - in TVN like 30 hostile caps managed to bail. Would love to get TS recording though. Waiting for NC to confirm no siege order - they will insist on lagsploitdevhaxlowerIDloginorder because nobody will ever confirm own incompetence. Good point there buddy. But 1 dread being able to fire doesn't really prove anything.
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.01 15:15:00 - [28] Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Originally by: Estri Hadrath just read last paragraph of history. Let's quote it here for everyone to see: Originally by: EVEWiki During most of BoB's lifetime rumours of cheating and excessive use of exploits has circulated around the eve-community. It is however only in recent days that proof of any wrongdoings has been found. Most notable still is the t20-incident, in which one of CCP's employees aided BoB with the use of developer tools for a long time. The t20-incident along with other incidents have cast a shadow over everything BoB has accomplished in EvE and are thought to be a major factor in the creation of the 'Coalition' of Northern and South Eastern alliances against them. First point: This is a wiki, which means that anyone get to write on it. Second point: It talks about T20, which is not the proof I was asking for. Third point: It speaks about "casting a shadow on everything BoB does" which is not the same as proof. So, once again: Post proof that BoB as a whole has ever knowingly cheated. Post proof that BoB as a whole has ever knowingly recieved help from a developer. Once again since you emo-rage-quit our tq convo Noone has said bob as a whole did anything wrong, if fact the only person that said anything about bob as a whole was you. What was said was, (and I'm still sticking by this) is: Knowing the history of bob MEMBERS, this all seems a bit fishy. Now have your mom bring you some cookies so you'll feel better and stop emo'ing, others of us that don't live in a basement have to go to work. My Siggy :) Prove it wrong! BOD's Strategy to winning! Originally by: SirMolle Strategy
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.10.02 01:21:00 - [29] Originally by: Sentinel Eeex I don't understand why so many people are complaining. Many of the issues (that I see mentioned here over and over again) are explained in new version of EVE-Online documentation released few days ago, where all game mechanics/features/limits are finally properly documented: http://www.eve-online.com/documentation/en/ (seems that only English version is available, at this point) Wow, a goon tring to front a rick-roll as an offical eve document. You know you can simply hover over a link to see the true address right? RIGHT? I don't think CCP would post any document to youtube I hope you get a perma-ban for this one. 0/10 Lame and stupid My Siggy :) Prove it wrong! Originally by: SirMolle Strategy

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